Yes and No | If SSIW is helping you, why not help us? Get DAILY lessons: Become an SSIW Member!

Where you can try and pick what few brains we have...

Yes and No

Postby Carole » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:55 pm

On course 1, we've learned to ask questions about others and to reply. But we haven't asked questions about ourselves, and therefore I don't know how to say "yes you are", "No, you will not" etc. If it's covered later on then I'm happy to wait, but if I've just forgotten/missed it or was supposed to know it by now then could someone help please?

Ydw i'n mynd? How do I reply: yes you are, no you are not
Ydw i wedi mynd? Yes, you have, no you haven't

Fydda i'n mynd? yes you will, no you won't (guessing Byddi or byddif, na fyddi or nafyddif??????)

I've tried working it out using what I've learned about other Yes's and No's, but am stumped by how to turn 'are you' (wyt ti) into 'you are', because I'm sure I haven't' heard ti wyt on Pobol y Cwm. Unless it's just wyt ??

Thanks a lot :smile:
Southern Course 1, Lesson 21

Corrections and suggestions of better ways to say things are very welcome!
User avatar
Carole
 
Posts: 45
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:16 am
Location: Midlands, UK
Real name:: Carole

Re: Yes and No

Postby essenbee » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:39 am

S'mae Carole,

You have got the idea regarding how this works already, but just to confirm:

Carole wrote:Ydw i'n mynd? How do I reply: yes you are, no you are not

Wyt / nac wyt
Carole wrote:Ydw i wedi mynd? Yes, you have, no you haven't

Do / Naddo
Carole wrote:Fydda i'n mynd? yes you will, no you won't

Byddi / na fyddi

Hope that helps!

Stu
Ar hyn o bryd, dw i'n astudio: Cwrs 3 Gwers 20 (fersiwn y Gogledd)
Yn ddiweddar, dw i wedi bod yn gwrando ar Meinir Gwilym
Beth ydw i'n darllen? Alecs Rider 1: Tarandon
Fel 'na ma' i a fel 'na fydd hi
User avatar
essenbee
SSiW Member
 
Posts: 842
Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:02 pm
Location: Studley, Warwickshire, Lloegr
Real name:: Stu

Re: Yes and No

Postby Dee » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:50 am

Very clear response there Stu! (Glad to hear you enjoyed bootcamp so much :D )

There is only one slight difference there if Carole is doing the southern course, in that instead of do/naddo as the answer to the 'wedi mynd' question, in the south it tends to be the same as the one above 'Wyt / nac wyt' but I'm sure both would be understood in the north and the south and all points between :D
Image
User avatar
Dee
Archdderwydd SSiW
 
Posts: 4489
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:06 pm
Location: Caerdydd

Re: Yes and No

Postby cwmgoch » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:27 am

Carole wrote:because I'm sure I haven't' heard ti wyt on Pobol y Cwm. Unless it's just wyt ??

That's right as far as I know. Hearing 'wyt' on Pobol y Cwm was actually where I first learned this.
Please feel free to correct my Welsh. Currently on Cwrs 3 De, Gwers 4.
Dw i'n moyn llenwi'r we gydag amlgyfrwng hyfryd yn Gymraeg!
User avatar
cwmgoch
 
Posts: 330
Joined: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:55 am
Location: Trefforest, Cymru
Real name:: Jonathan

Re: Yes and No

Postby sumsmeister » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:50 am

It's a little different, saying yes and no in Welsh. In general, you actually say "I am", or "You're not" or whatever is appropriate. You can use "Ie" and "Nage" fairly universally (present tense), or "Do" or "Naddo" (past tense), but the lessons will introduce different responses, because you will hear them on the street.
The "ti wyt" you heard on Pobol Y Cwm is probably being used for emphasis but without knowing the rest of the sentence I cannot say for sure. It is not grammatically correct, as it is the "wrong way round" and you should say "Ti'n...", but if it is commonly used, who's to say the right of it, particularly if it's meaning is clear to the listener? You would probably be more likely to hear "ti yn" for a slightly emphasised "you are" in the North, but it may be used further South as well. The "ti yn" simply takes a different part of the sentence to give it more weight, or to express agreement.
For example, three friends meet.
Meurig:- You're looking happy, Elfyn! Ti'n edrych yn hapus, Elfyn!
Rhodri:- You are, what's changed? Ti yn, beth sydd wedi newid?
Instead of repeating the whole phrase, "yes, you are looking happy", a part of it is picked out, the rest is "understood".
Does that help?
Cymru am byth!
Please the Forum Guidelines
User avatar
sumsmeister
SSiW Angel
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:45 pm
Location: Portsmouth. Y Lloegr.
Real name:: Gari

Re: Yes and No

Postby Carole » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:04 pm

Diolch Stu, Dee, Jonathen a Gari - very helpful :smile:

I'm glad to realise I was on the right track with working out the answers.

Gari, I actually said that I was sure I hadn't heard ti wyt on PYC, but I'm glad you misread because that was a useful explanation re emphasis. Now that you mention it, I do remember hearing Dw i yn used in exactly the same way - diolch yn fawr.
Southern Course 1, Lesson 21

Corrections and suggestions of better ways to say things are very welcome!
User avatar
Carole
 
Posts: 45
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:16 am
Location: Midlands, UK
Real name:: Carole





 



Return to Asking Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron