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Practicing on English speakers!

Postby DavidWilsonSteer » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:17 am

I feel quite jealous reading some of the 'first encounters'. It's very hard to find someone to speak to in Australia (although, according to the map there are several SSIWers around me as I type this. But I've found a sneaky way to practice. Saying 'Diolch yn fawr' to checkout chicks who are not listening anyway is not very satisfying. But, I've found a new way to practice. You probably get, as we do, those people on the streets who hang around asking you to give them your credit card so they can save the Sahara Penguins or some such; and then there are the people in supermarkets and shopping centres who are trying to get you to taste things or answer questionnaires. I look them in the eye, smile and say ...

"Mae'n ddrwg 'da fi. Dwi'n ddim gallu siarad Saesneg!"

The bonus is that I truly feel that I am a welsh speaker and, one day, I may even get one of them who is a welsh speaker and will respond to me in Welsh - fantastic! then I've found someone to practice with!!!
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby vgh50 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:41 am

David, that's brilliant! I'll have to try that with cold callers who come to my door :lol:

I'd love to hear you say that - We have a SSiW group on Soundcloud at this link: http://snd.sc/q1FAkV

It's just a place where we can record ourselves saying things for practice and listen to others saying stuff in Welsh. Have a look and see what you think.

I have a similar problem living in England - not quite as difficult as living on the other side of the world but I would love to meet some Welsh speakers in my home town. I wear one of the SSiW badges, just in case I pass someone who can speak Welsh so they will know I'm a Welsh speaker/learner.

Anyway, have fun speaking Welsh to the English and hopefully one day soon you will find someone who will say back to you, Oh, dwi'n gallu siarad Cymraeg hefyd!

Vaughan

ps - I'm glad I checked the spelling of 'hefyd' before posting this, as I first wrote 'hyfed' which, in the context of the sentece came back on Google Translate as: Oh, I can speak Welsh drunk :lol:
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby leiafee » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:52 am

I've started using that tactic with cold callers on the telephone.

"Ga i siarad gyda siaradwr Cymraeg os gwelwch yn dda...?"

Also good one to practice SSIW-ish patterns... (Dw i ddim yn mynd i brynu dim byd!)
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby Cer » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:54 pm

Heh. :lol: I'm going to try that with cold callers, too. And, those annoying people who come to the door selling religion and/or magazines.

Um, just in case... how do you say, "Not interested" in Welsh?
:dafad: Please feel free to correct me. Thanks! :dafad:

:shock: = "Oh, is that how it's spelled!"

Waffling around in the Cwrs 2 vocab lessons.
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby RobertBruce » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:18 pm

Cer wrote:Um, just in case... how do you say, "Not interested" in Welsh?


N: Sgen i'm diddordeb.
S: Sdim diddordeb 'da fi.

"I've got no interest"
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby jstetson » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:20 pm

Cer wrote:Heh. :lol: I'm going to try that with cold callers, too. And, those annoying people who come to the door selling religion and/or magazines.

Um, just in case... how do you say, "Not interested" in Welsh?

I came up with:

Dw i ddim yn diddordeb

and google translate agrees. Open to more informed opinions. :smile:
Feel free to correct my Welsh, os gwelwch yn dda.
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby RobertBruce » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:30 pm

jstetson wrote:I came up with:

Dw i ddim yn diddordeb

and google translate agrees. Open to more informed opinions. :smile:


I suspect that means "I am not an interest". :D

The 'having an interest in something in particular' and 'having an interest in something in general' topics are generally taught as a specific lesson in traditional courses because they don't correspond very well to the English way of saying things.
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby jstetson » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:50 pm

RobertBruce wrote:
jstetson wrote:I came up with:

Dw i ddim yn diddordeb

and google translate agrees. Open to more informed opinions. :smile:


I suspect that means "I am not an interest". :D

The 'having an interest in something in particular' and 'having an interest in something in general' topics are generally taught as a specific lesson in traditional courses because they don't correspond very well to the English way of saying things.

I suspected that might be the case, see this thread dealing with just that issue (which I probably should have spent more time with, before making my guess.)

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4896

So, any thoughts on how you do say 'I'm not interested"? (Besides just shouting "Cer bant!")
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby RobertBruce » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:52 pm

jstetson wrote:So, any thoughts on how you do say 'I'm not interested"? (Besides just shouting "Cer bant!")


Um, the post above yours? :lol:
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Re: Practicing on English speakers!

Postby jstetson » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:58 pm

RobertBruce wrote:
jstetson wrote:So, any thoughts on how you do say 'I'm not interested"? (Besides just shouting "Cer bant!")


Um, the post above yours? :lol:

Diolch! :oops: Nes i ddim gweld!
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