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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby cap » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:52 pm

cap wrote:A badger is Moch Daear (I've seen it on roadsigns, warning of badgers on the road!) literally Pig of the earth


just realised Moch Daear is the plural and Mochyn is singular (its difficult getting used to the fact that unlike English, plurals in Welsh can be shorter than the singular!)
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby Soap Distant » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:00 pm

Aran wrote:
Soap Distant wrote:
RobertBruce wrote:pen ôl mochyn daear.

Gah, the wrong way round! I always doubt myself (or get it plain wrong) when it comes to this type of possessive structure, I suppose because it's the complete opposite of what I've been using for the past 29-odd years.


And because we've done very little on this, apart from the ci ifanc - although you should find that a few extra runs-through of the colours vocab lesson will start to build up your adjectival muscles...:wink:


I think I'm okay with post-modification in general, ty glas, bronnau mawr and all that (though please don't ask me to stack them), it's remembering to think in terms of possessives being an adjective that I struggle with, even if it does make perfect sense.
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby mungy » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:44 pm

she said badger. it's the only bit I remembered :mrgreen:
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby cmcclean » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:58 pm

jstetson wrote:
RobertBruce wrote:Dw i'n teimlo mor arw â phen ôl mochyn daear.

'Daear' is the sort of word that proves Aran's point about reading ruining your accent. How are you supposed to pronounce that anyway? Could badgers be involved in the advanced course, do you think?


Just had an image in my head of a badger arguing with the seven dogs about who's turn it is to open the seven doors, a la numbers vocab lesson. I think they'd give the dogs and cats a run for their money.

P.S. The Irish for badger is broc, if that's any help! tóin an bhroic is the badger's ...
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby llanfairfach » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:04 pm

cmcclean wrote:Just had an image in my head of a badger arguing with the seven dogs about who's turn it is to open the seven doors, a la numbers vocab lesson. I think they'd give the dogs and cats a run for their money.




Think yourself lucky there's no giraffe involved... :faint:
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby Coedwig » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:58 am

cmcclean wrote:
P.S. The Irish for badger is broc, if that's any help! tóin an bhroic is the badger's ...


Just as the English word brock and Breton broc'h. Isn't there a word in Welsh like broch?
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby RobertBruce » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:06 am

Coedwig wrote: Isn't there a word in Welsh like broch?


Yes, that was the first suggestion. It's not as common as mochyn daear, but is is still used here and there.
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby Coedwig » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:04 pm

RobertBruce wrote:Yes, that was the first suggestion. It's not as common as mochyn daear, but is is still used here and there.


Ah, all right, sorry I missed it!
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Re: the long seconds between question and answer

Postby Bryn-Daf » Sun May 22, 2011 3:29 am

random snippet: Old english spelt badger as brocc and became the word brock (less used than badger) today......broch could be originally welsh/celtic or an engish influence on welsh, i have no idea
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