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[Aran]

My Job and my children are combining to wear me out I never get a chance to rest.

I share your pain. I've got all sorts of things planned for when the monsters grow up and go to university.

[jstetson]

My Job and my children are combining to wear me out I never get a chance to rest.

I share your pain. I've got all sorts of things planned for when the monsters grow up and go to university.

He he he, says she with kids in college.

[Aran]

He he he, says she with kids in college.

I'm reckoning I might learn a new language at that point, for example...

[Lostontheoggin]

To think I'm actually learning welsh to help them through welsh medium education. And so I can understand school plays etc.

Can't remember my last undisturbed nights sleep.

I don't actually have a problem sleeping, other people have a problem with me sleeping. Having had a week on her own my wife thinks when I get back I should be stepping up to look after the kids and give her a break, which I understand. But actually after a week in the Irish sea in all sorts of weather I need a break myself!

Its been foggy this week, you don't want to try sleeping with a fog horn going off on the deck above your head.

[Tahl]

I don't actually have a problem sleeping, other people have a problem with me sleeping. Having had a week on her own my wife thinks when I get back I should be stepping up to look after the kids and give her a break, which I understand. But actually after a week in the Irish sea in all sorts of weather I need a break myself!

Its been foggy this week, you don't want to try sleeping with a fog horn going off on the deck above your head.

Is it not good training for sleeping in a house with small children...?

[Aran]

Can't remember my last undisturbed nights sleep.

Seriously, I feel your pain. It's like a never-ending nightmare. I think the last undisturbed night's sleep we had was back when we had a night in Aberystwyth for the SSiW birthday party - we've probably had about one a year since Angharad Lliar was born.

Hang on in there. They've just got to start sleeping at some point, haven't they?

[bontddu]

Can't remember my last undisturbed nights sleep.

Seriously, I feel your pain. It's like a never-ending nightmare. I think the last undisturbed night's sleep we had was back when we had a night in Aberystwyth for the SSiW birthday party - we've probably had about one a year since Angharad Lliar was born.

Hang on in there. They've just got to start sleeping at some point, haven't they?

So glad it's not just me then.....

[Aran]

So glad it's not just me then.....

I know SO many people whose children just seem to go to bed and sleep. I want to throttle them all. It's almost enough to make me sign up on Mumsnet just to try and find some other sufferers...

On the bright side, I reckon anyone who can get through a few years of this without ending up in a prison for the clinically insane is doing brilliantly and will probably end up as President of the World when they've finished with the difficult stuff...

[Spenny]

So glad it's not just me then.....

I know SO many people whose children just seem to go to bed and sleep. I want to throttle them all. It's almost enough to make me sign up on Mumsnet just to try and find some other sufferers...

On the bright side, I reckon anyone who can get through a few years of this without ending up in a prison for the clinically insane is doing brilliantly and will probably end up as President of the World when they've finished with the difficult stuff...

We are the smug parents who booted our babies out into their own rooms after a week or two, ignored the sobs for a couple of nights (not hard when you are exhausted - but you soon learn the moaning from the serious stuff) and came to an arrangement that it did not take two parents to breastfeed and there were other times to contribute. Aside from the slight worry that no. 1 daughter is finishing uni with no job so our home life may not be entirely our own again, getting rid of them is bliss on one hand but the worries still stay!

On the other had, my in-laws have had one child with a congenital heart defect (who at times knows all the tricks to use it to her advantage) and another who had dire dietary troubles and instead of being 6' 7" like dad, is the smallest in the class.

I've seen enough to conclude that being hard about thekids is a good thing, namby pamby parenting is a thing of the modern era, because children need sane parents, so there is a trade-off between being slaves to the kids short term needs and looking after their long term needs by looking after yourself. On the other hand, I also know that advice is not necessarily transferrable from one set of children to another. I also know that however bad you think little children are, parents never really share the horrors of the teenage years. Just sayin'...

[Aran]

parents never really share the horrors of the teenage years. Just sayin'...

How can there be any problems in the teenage years? We'll have changed the locks and moved to a different country by then...